Extracted for your viewing pleasure...
The boxy goodness below was posted by me in this thread on TLC about the War on Christmas what a whiny bitch Bill O'Reilly is, that was turned in to a discussion about why Trey Parker and Matt Stone hate liberals and why the Democrats "lost" the presidential election.
So, there's a little
wholesomedick for you, if you missed me.
That was slightly edited from the original version.
I don't think Secularism had any direct effect on the Diebold CEO who promised to "deliver" Ohio to Bush (who recently resigned after fraud accusations). That had more to do with Republicans being cowards and breaking the law. Trey Parker and Matt Stone are pussies for selling out to the Libertarian Party. They're just tools now, they're not comedians anymore -- as you'll notice if you happen to catch any recent episodes of South Park. I'd imagine they get together with Penn and Teller at least once a week and masturbate to Ayn Rand while manning the glory hole at the CATO institute.
Despite any recent "bump" Bush's approval ratings have followed a steady downward trend since 9/11. Bush's approval ratings among blacks were at something like 2% just a couple months ago. The Margin of error in most of these polls is around 2%. Which means not only is it possible, but even likely, that he has 0% approval among blacks in the United States.
So, there's a little






Though, I must mention, I can't really tell the new episodes from the old episodes. I'm home for Chrismas and my parents just got cable two weeks ago (for the first time in my life), and I've been watching South Park almost every day since then. As far as I can tell, every person and every topic is fair game, liberals and conservatives alike, and especially celebrities. I'll give you that Team America was hard on liberals. But I don't think Trey Parker and Matt Stone are uncritical of the "War on Terror" (which is what Team America seemed to be defending) in South Park.
And can a president's approval rating ever really be at 0 percent? I'm not sure if that's plausible. Even the 2 percent approval rating among blacks seems unlikely, seeing as how the number of blacks who voted for Bush was somewhere around 19 or 20 percent. I think that at least 5 percent of individuals from any group will approve of their leader no matter what. Hitler would probably get 2+ percent approval. I'm highly suspicious of any statistic that put Bush's approval rating below 5 - 10 percent of any community.
If you compare Penn and Teller's new show, to recent Episodes of south park, the issues they're trying to advocate (or disparage) are almost the same (aside from Penn and Teller's hair regenration episode and that kind bullshit). If they're not following the same memos or something, the small intellectual cultures they're in must be completely incestuous.
Sure they made fun of CU Boulder and Ward Churchill in that hippie episode...
I think they're out of touch with what is going on at CU. For as much as I supported Ward Churchill, I never called anyone a little-Eichman, and I hate any music that is described with the word "grass" -- bluegrass, supergrass, jamgrass, chinese grass, whatever.
And, to give credit where credit is due, aside from that the rest of that episode was spot on. In the dictionary under "quixotic," there should be a picture of anyone who ever went to a phish concert.
And can a president's approval rating ever really be at 0 percent?
Mathematically speaking, yes. In fact, the margin of error in that poll was like 3.4%. So if I wanted to be really cheeky, I would have not necessarly correct mathmatical grounds to say that his approval among blacks could be as low as -1.4%. :)
Even the 2 percent approval rating among blacks seems unlikely, seeing as how the number of blacks who voted for Bush was somewhere around 19 or 20 percent.
That was before he decided they should all be left for dead in New Orleans. But, I get where you're coming from. This guy:
http://www.mysterypollster.com/main/200
tried really hard to make it look like it was poor coverage, or someone being opportunistic, or whatever they hell he was trying to imply. The best thing he could come up with was another people conducted during the same time which put Bush's approval rating among blacks at 12%.
The Wall Street Journal is usually very blunt about the state of the world, and the way things work -- it has to be. The Business press is just about that, business. People are going to make investment decisions and predictions based on it's information. Most of those people are in the largely conservative managerial class of society so they're not outraged by "bad news," they just have to mitigate it's effect on their bottom line.
So I would favor the NBC/Wall Street Journal Poll (2%), over the Pew Poll (12%). Even being "fair" in a not necessarly correct statistical way, averaging the two gives us 7%, which is still pretty low.
Hitler would probably get 2+ percent approval.
Even among blacks? They're not stupid.
Anyway, I suppose the Wall Street Journal is a reliable source in that isn't likely to try to make Bush seem less popular than he is. But I still think the 7% works better than the 2%.
And of course blacks aren't stupid, that is, any stupider than anyone else. But I think 2% of people are stupid, regardless of race. I'd expect more than 2% of white people to have a degree of respect or admiration for Hitler. I was exaggerating when I said the same for blacks, but I'd be amazed if any elected American politician had less than 2% approval among ANY group of people in the country.
Consider this: there is a segment of the black middle/upper class that, according to black critics, is very critical of the black poor. It's the source of the type of comments you see coming from Bill Cosby about putting the blame for the community's problems on the community itself. I'm not saying that Bill Cosby is a Republican or supports Bush, but I can name famous Blacks from the media who do (think of Thomas Sowell, Larry Elder, Allen Keyes, etc... . Perhaps the media overrepresents them because of Republicans' efforts to prove that they actually have a token black member or two, but even if they're only 5% of the black population, it's more than 2% and I think they're loyal enough to stick by Bush in spite of what's going on. There is a segment of the population that cares enough about stopping gay marriage and abortion that they'll support conservatives no matter what it means they'll go along with, and I think that segment includes a proportion of the black population.
http://www.renewamerica.us/news/051029k
It doesn't sound to me like Keyes "approved" of him. Though given the choice between him and John Kerry (or any other democrat), of course he would vote for Bush. I've been hoping people like Keyes would all jump to the constitution party or reform party for a long time. But no such luck.
Definately "approve of" and "would vote for" are two different things.
"There is a segment of the population that cares enough about stopping gay marriage and abortion that they'll support conservatives no matter what it means they'll go along with, and I think that segment includes a proportion of the black population."
And these are the people that should have been aborted, because that's a stupid reason to go with someone else's overall adjenda. ^^
my dad and i were watching some interview with parker and stone, and they said that they make fun of everything, because if they didn't, then everything they had made fun of would become offensive.
they also said the liberals are ten times more fun to make fun of because they're the quickest to get their panties in a knot.
(sorry, WD. didn't realize your whole internet persona was based on anomnimity.)