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ZT raises a valid point. But...bguirk, how can you even say that the mainstream media shows no bias?

no media organization is free from bias. most of them tend to under report on their sponsors which is why I mainly listen to public media along with a subscription to the New York Times.

The mainstream media is incredibly liberal! Have you ever seen anyone on NBC ask Obama any tough questions? They don't! They just drool over him! The president of NBC/General Electric also does an enormous amount of business with Iran. The Iranian government is trying to get ahold of nuclear weapons and they are planning to wipe Israel off the Earth. But the president of NBC/General Electric doesn't give a shit. He still does business with them.

I don't watch NBC so I can't really comment, but by my reading Obama hasn't sat down for an exclusive with NBC for quite awhile--probably not since the convention and McCain's camp has banned their candidaets from appearing on the network. Before the last debate people were saying Brokaw was biased towards McCain, but I'm not buying it. I don't know how engaging in business with Iran makes their news division liberal. You need to explain that relationship better before I comment.

When John McCain was on The View they asked him about The Constitution. When Obama came on The View, they all started batting their eyes

I honestly hope you don't think The View counts as journalistic media.

The funny thing is, viewers don't like biased news. That's why NBC and MSNBC's ratings are in the toilet. The Fox News Channel beats CNN, and MSNBC in ratings. This is because they don't kiss Obama's ass. They aren't on the far right. They are moderate.

The links between the Republican Party and Fox News have been well documented in several instances by several groups and most would argue they are the far from moderate. Wikipedia has a nice example and a link to the transcript: "While promoting his memoir, What Happened, Scott McClellan, former White House Press Secretary (2003–2006) for President George W. Bush stated on the July 25, 2008 edition of Hardball with Chris Matthews that the Bush White House routinely gave talking points to Fox News commentators — but not journalists — in order to influence discourse and content.[35] "

I've never heard CNN talk about William Ayres. He's a proud terrorist that is good buddies with Obama. No, they didn't meet once and shake hands. No, they aren't acquiantances. They are friends! If you haven't read the story, google it. William Ayres and Barack Obama.

You're very wrong about this. CNN was all over this because this came up in an Obama debate with Hillary Clinton over 6 months ago. Multiple news organizations investigated the relationship and found that they were not close and have had fleeting contact at best over the past 12 years. Those same organizations are re-running that coverage this week because nothing has changed and Obama has repeatedly denounced Ayers activities in the 60's and 70's. Many Chicago politicians, republican and democrat, have been associated with Ayers because he is politically active and serves on many boards.

The mainstream media loves to ask McCain the tough questions. But Obama gets nothing but softballs. The media can't stop eating his asshole out.

I thought long and hard about what you wrote and whether or not it deserved a point by point rebuttal because everything you have said doesn't strike me as the convictions of a serious person. In the end I gave in because you called me out by name, but your points could've easily come straight from the McCain campaign which is sad. I hope you are capable of more than a simple parrotting back of the party line you are exposed to from the campaign or Fox News. There is a world of concerned people out there who are dogged in their pursuit of the truth and presenting it in a clear way so people can form opinions. Some organizations are better at it than others. There is an actual liberal media out there too and they proudly proclaim their bias: Salon.com and Mother Jones are examples. Before you go around brandishing that label you should take a look at what the content of the real liberal media is and how it's different from the "mainstream" media organizations.

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